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March 25, 2007

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A.R.Yngve

Man, this is like a review blog on aci --
*BONK*
Ow!

;-P

But seriously... I'm with Spinrad on the "nanotech" trend. For years now, I've been hesitating to use the device in any of the stories I write... it just seems too much like a magic lamp (or "magic dust").

Also, there is the problem which Michael Crichton took up in PREY: If nanotechnology really worked as well as it's depicted by its fans, it might easily become an uncontrollable menace.

In fact the more I think about it, it would be better for all if "nanobots" turned out to be a pipe dream.

Consider this: If several of all the civilizations in the universe developed nanotechnology... and just ONE of these civilizations created self-replicating nanomachines which went totally out of control... just ONCE in the history of the entire universe... they might proceed to devour whole galaxies.

Only the constant expansion of the cosmos would prevent runaway nanomachines from eating all planets everywhere.

Think about it, will ya?

Jonathan McCalmont

Yes, well, the other problem with nanotechnology is that it's essentially a setting-killer.

Once you introduce nanotechnology into a setting, it's then very diffcult to justify not using it to solve every outstanding plot problem. Weirdly enough, Star Trek Voyager fell into this by having 7 of 9's Borg nanites solve every problem but also Hamilton's Reality Disfunction books which had nano technology but only in the medical sphere and it never really made sense.

A.R.Yngve

Precisely: Nanomachines take all the fun out of writing.

Lou Anders

Actually, the part of the line I like is "for fans of Tolkien, had he gone electric." I am a big Bob Dylan fan, particularly of the Royal Albert Hall bootleg. I am indifferent to the bit about acid.

Jonathan McCalmont

I'm much relieved to hear it Lou... you had me worried for a second there ;-)

...JUDAS!

Lou Anders

Ha - yes!

I remember seeing a poster for a game that described itself as "like Lewis Carroll on Acid" back in 1996 and thinking it a cliche then too. But, of course, getting the book into EW is the important thing, moreso than what they say about it. Their reviews are edited down to soundbytes. I wish they were accorded more space, but it is what it is.

Max Cairnduff

Out of control nanotech on a runaway vector is basically the plot of Bloom isn't it?

Which makes a reasonable fist of it as a plot as it happens.

Generally though, Norm has a bit of a point I think. Interesting link.

Jonathan McCalmont

I also think that it features in the back-ground of Al Reynolds' books... certainly the second one.

In those cases it's bearable as it's like a natural disaster. Something the characters have to overcome. The problem is when nanotechnology gets used as a tool. It means that the characters can re-sculpt the world atom by atom and that doesn't really make for much tension in a plot.

Max Cairnduff

You're correct about Reynolds.

I think the difference is between nanotech as background plot creator, as in Bloom and Reynolds, and nanotech as magic wand.

In Bloom and Reynolds we have the classic SF concept of taking a development and playing with the implications. In many works however nanotech is just handwavium, magic by another name.

Nothing wrong with magic, but it's presence takes you right outside any concept of hard sf.

Are those writers trying to write hard sf though? I suspect not, we may be criticising them for not adhering to genre constraints relevant to a genre other than that they are writing in. SF is not hard sf, magic handwavium technology can't be present in hard sf but it certainly can in general sf as Star Trek all too plainly demonstrates.

Jonathan McCalmont

Yeah, that's one of the things that bothered me about the article and made me suspect that it was just an attempt to tie together a number of unrelated book reviews.

The only book in the list which is undeniably hard SF is Blindsight. Infoquake isn't even remotely Hard SF and as a result the use of magic isn't overly bothersome.

In fact, one could argue that there really is very little difference between fantasy and SF because most stuff like FTL drives and transporters and lazer guns are about as scientific as magic swords and teleportation spells.

The odd one out is hard SF as that sub-genre is really about engaging with scientific thought rather than using scientific ideas as set dressing.

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