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gabe

wait... we aren't disagreeing here, Jonathan. I agree with you whole-heartedly.

Maybe my comment at Torque Control explains my stance a little more clearly. Forcefully, anyway.

Jonathan McCalmont

I saw that, I think Kev's being defeatist but IZ's history of having longer and more critical pieces is one that's definitely worth preserving.

Not because it's what fandom demands.

But because 350 word limits on reviews tend to guarantee poor reviews.

Which is where we came in and where the debate is.

trollface

Is it just me, or does the longer length of the second review of "Light" linked by Martin merely allow the author to waffle on aimlessly for three paragraphs before even mentioning the book? It's a further two until he actually starts *discussing* the book. And, when I say "discussing", I mean explaining the plot and quoting large sections of the book for the next eight paragraphs.

It's actually the 14th paragraph before we actually get into any analysis, and that analysis is rather shallow in and of itself and, again, relies heavily on large quotes. The actual review itself only runs to 454 words.

So, I'm sure there is an argument for longer reviews having more depth and allowing the author to explore things in more depth (in fact, I think it's hard to deny that they can), but these examples really aren't it.

Jonathan McCalmont

You're right Trollface, it's not a particularly tight review and for all the length he's been given to play with he wastes a lot of it waffling and summarising the plot.

In truth, that review of Light is probably a good example of a review that could have been written in 500 words by a disciplined reviewer.

In Martin's defence, he was responding to the idea that it's "newspaper standard" to have 350 word reviews. Clearly it's not the case that newspapers stick to short reviews and that Banks piece is a good example of a newspaper publishing a longer piece.

Even if it is... well... a bit pish really.

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