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December 08, 2007

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Jörn

the truth of the matter is that if they were strictly honest, all non-human creatures should be as Other as Lovecraft’s outer gods, their drives and ambitions as incomprehensible to us as ours would be to them

I've heard that being said regarding aliens from time to time, and I don't find that position very reasonable at all. Sure, finding out that after initial incomprehensibility (like all so often in Star Trek) the aliens share our notions of love, hate, family values and so on, that under their aliens skins they are, deep down, just like us, is pure nonsense. But to assume that you can't pin down what makes aliens tick, that their minds (or whatever they have as a equivalent to engage reality, if they actually do so) are forever unknowable, like the creature in Lem's Solaris, is equally a cheat. My intuition says me, that the middle way is more realistic, far more alien than the garden variety found in most science fiction, but not lost to understanding, after time and research. After all, we have one thing in common, the same physical reality (if we 're talking about beings from some other universe with a complete different set of physics, maybe they can be incomprehensible, if we can never figure the basics of this universe out, but that's a bit of a stretch).

His reactions to emotional stimuli and, indeed, most of his internal mental state should be something profoundly alien to most normal people.

Maybe everyone goes at times in their lives through short, but similar phases of emotional detachment like Dexter. You've worked to many hours without sleep, you feel like a robot and not a human anymore. Maybe these fleeting moments may allow most people to tune into someone like Dexter (I'm completely grasping here, nothing serious).

BTW, great article. Reading it, I feel the urge to know more about philosophy, but I must admit it's a daunting field. Where to begin? Do you know any good books that give a good overview of the major subfields, that would allow one to get a good grip on it on a basic level to see what to read next?

Jonathan McCalmont

Hi Jorn :-)

First bit : I think that in the long run you're right. Ted Chiang has a story about working out the language and therefore the mindset of an alien species. It would be different but possible so I think it would be possible to create a character with an alien psychology and have that psychology be comprehensible without it being stereotypical or reduced to a particular kind of human personality.

However, in the context of a series such as Dexter, that wouldn't really be possible.


Second Bit : Possibly. I wrote a post a while back about how I thought I was dead inside when it came to relating emotionally to art (which is over-stating things as I did get quite emotionally involved in the pieces my GF sang at a concert last night) but even if one did lack emotion at times, one would still know what emotion felt like. A Psychopath wouldn't, he's only feel urges. That makes for quite a different psychology I think.


Third Bit : Bertrand Russell's history of western philosophy is widely respected as a good place to start if one wants to learn about philosophy. Personally though, I think that there's nothing like letting one's interests guide one so something like Ted Honderich's Oxford Companion to Philosophy but in truth there are loads of popular books about philosophy.

Daniel Jackson

I really enjoyed your analysis of Dexter. This is the kind of discussion about characters and television series that I've always been looking for but have never found until now. I am just wowed by the fact that you tied Dexter's character development to Hume and Freud. I suppose the connection should be obvious at least to Freud. The show is a character study and the protagonist is a psychopath. This begs for a psychological approach. Still my whole store of philosophical knowledge a la Hume, Kant, etc for whatever reason seems to have erstwhile remained completely compartmentalized from such character analysis. In fact, I think it is interesting to wonder to what extent Dexter is an embodiment of Kant's search for a categorical imperative. Some of the writing does indeed portray Dexter as having typical human desires and empathy so as not to be the prototypical psychopath. Despite this, he does often seem as this emotionless automaton groping in the dark for a principle to guide his action in the face of infinite choice and a rational awareness of certain insatiable impulses.

I'm in agreement with you at least if I understand you correctly. If the writing of Dexter or anything else for that matter were to be completely true to the reality of psychopathic psychology this would be something near impossible for the prototypical normal human to relate or empathize. As a result, it would probably make for a boring show. That's somewhat ironic for me since I think I would enjoy the show that much more if the characterization were more true life. I suppose because it would be more like learning in a hopefully dramatically interesting context.

I do sometimes find myself laughing on the inside at the characterization when it appears that Dexter genuinely cares about Rita or the children. The voice over, that I guess is supposed to give us insight into Dexter's true thoughts and nature, comes across to me as the ultimate false-consciousness. It's function in the show prima facie seems to be as truth sayer, but more and more it seems to me as verbal meaninglessness nothing more than secondary afterthoughts and rationalizations. So I agree when you say, "he's not really discovering who he really is" because that would imply there was some truth about himself to found at the bottom of all that verbiage. The basic truths of Dexter, his impulses, and the code which he uses to satisfy them, are much the same since day one. What is his "continuously re-forging identity" seems to me to be nothing more than a meandering perspective of self influenced by the vicissitudes of his daily life.

While Dexter experiments with emotional connection and visibility with Lila or his brother even that seems faked since nothing fundamental about his behavior ever changes. There's no real transformational process for him. I never really thought about it this way, but intellectually speaking that makes him an incredibly boring character to me. He often describes himself as "empty," but that's not really the case. At bottom, he's not empty. There just isn't a whole lot there: his impulse like a starving wild dog and the code. Despite appearances, those things are it and unaffected.

Anyway, I don't have any really coherent thoughts on the matter so I'm kinda rambling here. I'll be sure to poke around your blog here.

Thanks

Jonathan M

Hi Daniel --

I'm delighted to hear that you enjoyed the piece. It was certainly a nice conceptual breakthrough for me when I wrote it. In fact, I have a book review in the pipes that draws on some of the same conclusions about the viability of different psychological models for psychological purposes.

It is actually possible to write about straight psychopaths. Massimo Carlotto's The Goodbye Kiss charts to rise of a former terrorist turned restauranteur and he is not only an engaging character, he's also a total psychopath without any hint of remorse, though in a way the point of the book is to reinforce that psychopaths are different to us, even when we think they might have some kind of human emotion, it's just a scam.

I don't think you could write a TV series on that model, so Dexter's writers flit about, refusing to be pinned down to one psychological model, thereby allowing them to make us empathise with Dexter without ever understanding him.

You're absolutely correct about the voice-over being a form of false consciousness but then I'd argue that that's all the self ever is... it's a narrative we construct for ourselves from largely unrelated biological drives and neurological quirks.

In some ways, Dexter's fluid nature is a more honest piece of characterisation than any other on TV.

Mirrorball

Dear Jonathan M,

Praising is harder than criticizing, so I'm going to write about the parts of your post I disagree with -- I'm taking the easiest path -- but I loved reading your post and I agree with almost everything you wrote.

In short I disagree with your conclusion. You wrote that the writers cheated to make Dexter more comprehensible, but Dexter's characterisation is also a mess. The obvious conclusion to me is that the writers failed. They chose to make Dexter less realistic so that he would be comprehensible, but they failed at making him comprehensible -- Dexter is a mess. My own conclusion is that the writers are as clueless about who Dexter is as Dexter himself, even at the most basic level. They just want Dexter to be sympathetic -- now he has feelings for Rita and her children, which made countless women sigh over the romance, so obviously they succeeded. I guess I have a heart of stone, because I couldn't care less about Rita. I just wanted to find that Dexter makes sense, or even better, to see him as a mysterious, fascinating, inhuman being. I want that otherness the writers threw away by cheating. I want to sympathize with and understand Deb, Angel, LaGuerta, Doakes etc -- they are normal like me. Making these secondary characters likeable should be a piece of cake, it's natural, but they are the show's weakest aspect. With Dexter, I want to feel that the writers know exactly what they are doing, and they are keeping me in the dark on purpose, but what they did instead was trying to make me like Dexter, sympathize with him.

Dexter's fluid nature isn't really fluid, it's inconsistent. Besides I think the writers are suggesting Dexter is becoming a better person. It's undeniable he discovered his feelings for Deb and Rita and isn't love the most sublime thing?

Jonathan M

Hi Mirrorball :-)

As a general principle of characterisation, I agree with you. I've written about the last couple of series of Battlestar Galactica and found them both painful to watch because it's clear that none of the characters have any bottom to them and what happns from episode to episode is based more upon what is convenient for the writers than what is true to the characters.

However, in the case of Dexter, I think that feeling of otherness and lack of bottom actually works as his psychology is different to ours and so there's no reason why there should be a real Dexter in there somewhere... there are just whims and fancy and biological drives that may push him towards loving Rita but then next series he might attack her. Dexter's a cypher and I think the effect works rather well.

But I don't think this effect is intentional. I think it's a product of poor writing BUT I think it's a positive one. I think the series would suffer if Dexter was written in a more traditionally coherent manner.

Mirrorball

The problem with Dexter is that he's losing that feeling of otherness. I think the writers are trying to portray him as a normal guy, who's been out of touch with his emotions, and has a need to kill. But normal people don't need to kill, and therein lies the problem. I don't think Dexter is a cypher, I think he's contradictory. It doesn't make sense that he chops people up into pieces and at the same time he has feelings for a single mother who is strugling to raise her two kids. It just doesn't feel verisimilar. And I'm pretty sure Dexter is never going to attack Rita, unfortunately.

Jonathan M

I certainly agree with you that there's a downward artistic trend as they try and suggest that psychopaths are nice guys deep down. The series is dropping into the standard Freudian model that makes up so much of American TV where nobody's a jerk, they're just affected by issues they need to get over.

In fact, evidently the series of books that the series is increasingly loosely based on hasn't been able to keep it up and has dropped into a model whereby Dexter is a normal guy who is possessed by some kind of magical force.

Kym

Is Dexter a psychopath though? Harry Morgan made a loosely based diagnosis based on his experience and knowledge but that doesn't make it so. Dexter shown as a young child seems normal enough,even Brian his brother didn't seem abnormal pre slaughter. Does that kind of experience to the very young mean 'psychopathy' or does it mean a kind of trauma that would shut down normal responses and impose a kind of 'traumatic psychopathy' something like MPD? I can only go on what the show is protraying and frankly the character isn't what I would have thought of as a psychopath. He seems rather too introspective but then that may be a necessity of television.

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